2016 – As we head to the end of this
year, it’s been overall pretty good. My wife has made tremendous strides,
including nibbling at a Lithuanian brick wall that has been decades unmovable.
I’m still scanning materials for posterity. Y-DNA testing needs a few more McGing
males but so far finding we are likely to all be related. I put my gedcom data on this site (see below) because Rootsweb seems to be diminishing. Should they fail completely, this site
would go dark as I’m hosted on Rootsweb and if
that happens I’ll find a replacement hosting site. I own the domain name.
2016 I’ve been doing much more scanning and have more that I’ve found filed
away that needs scanning to keep it preserved. DNA continues to be the prime way of
linking family connections that records fail to do. Still hoping to find a link
to someone who knows more than me about the family J
2016 I’ve finished up the scanning and have a huge repository of scanned documents
and records that I’m open to sharing with other McGing or related family
researchers. Let me know if
you’ve an interest, as I doubt I’ll put these online for a lot of
reasons. No good news on
breaking down any walls, although my wife can now reach back to the 1500s and
is eligible for the D.A.R. Not bad,
too bad my Irish records earlier than 1800 are pretty much non-existent L
2016 I’ve been scanning old letters and have slowly been ensuring that these
details are not lost and are included in the records. To that end, http://www.mcging.org/details.html is full of my Aunt
May’s recollections and worth reading if you are a Donoghue or Lally or Whalen or McGing.
2016 It’s a safe bet that Scottish Gings, at least with
a Stirling Scotland connection, are actually McGings
with roots in Co Mayo who moved to work and who may have stayed. Finally found Scottish records that show McGing early and later show Ging and that show Co Mayo birth or marriage with later
residence in Scotland. Proof the name shifted with change to Scotland. Plus,
found a bunch of Austin’s in this group and the even rarer Philip, which
are not common McGing names but are prevalent in my own and one or two
others. Now the great news is that
a branch of the family that moved to the US and became McGinn and a branch of
the family that moved to England and I have taken Y-DNA tests and the results
are in – all 3 of us share a common gr McGing grandfather. This is cool because on paper, I cannot
link these 3 groups of families together, but the DNA says we are. My guess is mid-1700s or so for when we
have the common ancestor. So my theory that all McGings are cousins may not be 100% true but it’s
likely more true than not. And now
we can test McGinns and Gings
to see if they link up as well.
Might be a way for families to learn about where they came from. Great data, quite exciting.
2016 As a family centered in County
Mayo going back to at least 1800, my brick walls are going to be high and thick
as the written record is simply not there for so many ancestors. I bring this up because we get a lot of
emails from potential cousins via DNA and whose family history contains
familiar names (but not clear ancestor lines) and so far
I’ve simply had to say that unless they have better documentation
(including family lore) there really isn’t a lot I can do.
Now if you look at what Paul MacCotter has said (look up Surnames from the table below)
it doesn’t seem that we came from the North, as was the supposition. But
it’s still an open issue to better confirm or deny.
Still looking for McGings or McGing relations of either sex to consider
autosomal DNA testing (Ancestry.com or FTDNA tests) because at least one has
linked to my dad. And for males surnamed McGinn or McGing from Mayo stock to
consider spending the money for a Y-DNA-37 or better test at FTDNA.com.
2016 Oh boy, it's been literally a
year since I found time to update this despite retiring. The site still active.
In the intervening times we've had more data put online by commercial organizations , better tech such as DNA testing, smart web
sites like MyHistory.com and social networking. I've been improving the records
in my files with electronic copies of many Irish births and I have an off-line
repository of a LOT of documents related to McGings
and my mom's family. One of my long held beliefs was
that all individuals using the McGing surname are related, but that is hard to
prove given the Irish records of the times. I've a theory that there was indeed
a family using that surname around 1780 or so that is the family that the
modern McGings descend from. It's also my theory that
the Mayo McGings were originally McGinn's from Antrim
who left there due to sectarian strife. In modern times, McGing is essentially
a Mayo exclusive surname which supports that theory.
In December 2015, a McGing male older than me but not as old as my dad took
a Y-DNA 67 test. I've also taken that test.
We are from families that claimed no common relation to each other from both
family lore and via standard genealogy records examination. The DNA results
says that we are indeed related. Based on this information and the best records
we can find, it is likely that this common ancestor existed around 1780-1820. Which
is on target with the data, which is strengthened by the uniqueness of the
surname and the fact it is localized in Mayo.
So while I need more older male McGings
to take a DNA autosomal and a Y-DNA test, in order to address the relationship
via paternity, these small early results give a strong support for
demonstrating more conclusively that we are indeed cousins. Plus
I'd love McGings of both sexes to take autosomal DNA
tests, which will help build up the data on the genealogy.
still active just slow getting things online. I welcome contacts with
February 2007Still plugging away, but a lot of my data has
yet to be scanned or put online. I welcome contacts with interested folks
February 2006 Still plugging away, but a lot of my data has
yet to be scanned or put online. I welcome contacts with interested folks.
December 2004 Wow, the easy work of simply gathering up as
much data as possible has been pretty much done, and the hard work of analyzing
the data is ongoing. And slow. But the data is here for the analyzing and if
you figure out something or hahve new stuff to add,
please let me know.
July 2004 - It's been almost a year, and it's not because I
don't care or am not still researching family, but my computer died, my
daughter was in her last year of high school and we had the college search
thing and the job got intense. So I have a year's
worth of backed up research to get to, things to digitize, leads to follow-up
and I'll probably bever recover. But at least I now
have both my html editor back up and my ftp program running.
August 2003 Still dealing with real life. Have detailed
information on the Austin McGing/McGinn family which ended up in Montana and
then Seattle. Found some 1911
Irish census stuff on Pat Deese's pages I didn't
have. Wow, where did the time go? Real life got very insistent and genealogy
took a backseat. It's been quite slow, but I hope to finish up the work in the
1837 online material reasonably soon.
June 2003 More slowness. Did add some 1891 UK Census items. Will be attacking the remaining birth index materials once the
indexes are updated online. No breakthroughs or anything, just slow data
collection. Redid the layout of my material (below, at bottom).
April 2003 Updated the UK census with my first 1891 find. Some new
photos. Have been updating the UK Indexes of birth and death and marriage.
March 2003 More slowness. I've picked up some documentation
for my files, but nothing for the web page. I think I've pretty much gleaned
what I can from the Scottish web
site for our Scottish cousins. Now there are some interesting Scottish
McGinn items, but due to the cost, those are on hold for now.
February 2003 It's been a bit slow, I have simply been too
busy to focus on much. So I'm playing catchup. I have
a new page that contains data provided by Tom Kenny on land records from Tonlegee. I've been getting emails from McGinn
researchers, so perhaps it's worthwhile to explain that my focus is on the
Roman Catholic McGinns who came from Ulster to County
Mayo about 1790-1810 and became Gings and later McGings. These McGings often
emigrated to England, Scotland and the US, and quite often resumed the name
McGinn. So if the McGinns
are from Mayo, I'm interested. Added some stuff to the Miscellaneous page as well.
January 2003 Added more 1910
US Census materials. Created a new page on Australian
McGings. Hopefully it'll get bigger. Was going
through the piles of stuff I had at home and added some new photos, cleaned up
some old stuff, did some housekeeping of the site. More 1881 UK Ging stuff here.
I'm really behind in transcribing 1910 US census
December 2002 More 1930
US Census materials. Updated more English
Birth, death and marriage records
November 2002: Really added a LOT of 1930
US census material, Illinois and Pennsylvania. Added a 1910
US Census entry for an Austin McGinn, his wife Anna and brothers Thomas and
John. Added 2 1930 New York US Census entries. Finished the 1930
US Census material (what's available so far).
October 2002: Updated the
Ellis Island material as more manifests have become available. New 1860
US Census entry, updated the UK
census reports and created a page for Scottish
Census reports. New page with some Scottish
marriages here. Found my first set of no-Catholic McGings.
(I've a limited upbringing, never met a McGing who wasn't Catholic, but it
figures that McGings come in all sizes, colors,
shapes, religions and whatever.)
September 2002: I got a boatload of Scottish McGing data
from the new Scottish web site.
Way too much to transcribe, at least in the short term, but I did upload it to
the worldconnect site in a new gedcom
after I keyed it in. Fixed some data on the Ellis Island material. Been
tinkering, just some general typo fixing and some new photos.
Need to do those backlogged census items. Interested in a clock with the McGing
coat of arms on it? Check out the latest at the store.
August 2002 Also, Sr. Helen raises some interesting name
Tweaked the Irish census data with some additional information Sr. Helen
provided. Bring attention to the UK, particularly Scottish
census materials. I'm transcribing some 1901 Scottish Census materials for
release shortly. Been revising the
1901 Irish Census data, and working on creating 1911
Irish Census pages. You should check out 1901 because they are more
complete and when I had Form B available, I've listed home ownership facts plus
the names of the neighbors.
July 2002 A new page on my great
uncle Philip. Scanned some poetry
on Lough Mask written by my father.
June 2002 New page: McGings in Queen of Heaven Cemetery, Hillside Illinois.
Updated some 1901 Irish Census data and got some new Irish 1911 Census data here.
A great web site for explaining Gaelic surnames is here. Well worth reading. Fixed
some bad links, added a 1871 entry previously overlooked here
and fixed some picture links. Some more 1920
Census stuff from Montana.
May 2002: Chicago voters rolls are a good way to get some data and I
have some here.
Also some new 1920 US Census data added here.
April 2002: As April winds down, comes 4 more
1920 US Census, this time from Missouri. Got abunch
of UK birth, death and marriage certs, so those records
have been updated. Reviewed my Ellis Island stuff,and
found more data at that site that I've updated
here. Worth reviewing. Found a J McGing who died
in the2nd Anglo-Boer War in 1902 and is probably buried in South Africa.
Updated some entries in the various UK extracts. Added an Austin McGinn who
married a Mary McGinn in the marriage
extracts and they are really McGings. I'm also
investigating Ging as a possible varient
of the name with more seriousness.
March 2002 More 1920 stuff. I use Ancestry.com and there are a number of interesting "McGings"
in the index for 1920. There are some "McGings"
in Louisiana (nope, not really) and in Georgia, who are listed as black and mulotto (nope, not really). Mary Chervenak
just sent me a copy of a photo
of my twin uncles Jim and Austin as boys. Pat Deese
updated her materials, and check out the new material excerpted
from her pages.
February 2002: 1920 US census data is starting to become available,
so check out the new census
page. I'm seeing some familiar families and a few strays. Fixed some items,
just general housekeeping so far. Updated the Glenmask 1883 Census page with some estimated year of
January 2002: Nothing much happened in December, and in January I've
added a small UK McGinn
November 2001: Slow month. However, I got the 1881
UK Census on CD-ROM and have been slowly fixing up those pages. Now I have
the street addresses for where the people lived at the time of the census.
October 2001: More 1910 census data for Gings.
Was able to update some of the 1910 census data after locating copies of the
census pages. Nothing earthshaking, but more details.
September 2001: Mary Chervenak found Philip
McGing listed as a leatherworker in a Westport
business directory of about 1840 - 1842. Added a new
page based on some data I found in my files. I spoke with Paul MacCotter who unequivocally states that if a Ging claims Irish descent, it's a McGing. Maybe not a Ginn,
but an Irish Ging is a McGing.
August 2001: As an emerging theory of where we came from, I am
finding myself increasingly convinced that the McGings
came from the North, despite not being found in any written documents that
pertain to that emigration. Added some more
headstone photos courtesy of Mary Chervenak. Busy
with the 1900 census and found a treasure trove of Irish Gings
1900 census pages). Worth checking out both for McGings
and Gings. Pat
Deese has again found some new McGings, this time Denis MURPHY to Rose McGing 9/3/1825.
photo's, courtesy of Mary Chervenak's recent
visit to Westport. Added come GIF copies of the 1818
Marquis of Sligo rent rolls. Too much to rekey, but has a lot of good data. New data from 1881
UK census, this time for Scotland.
July 2001: Found my granduncle James (McGinn). Sorely hurt by Social
Security's fee increase, although I know SSA is evaluating the idea of putting
this database on the net. Got some 1900
census data I need to abstract out, but it was disappointing as most were
servants! I know there are McGings in the US prior to
1900, so why are they not showing up in the census index with their families?
Not every one here was a
servant in someone else's household!
June 2001: Found another McGing on the Ellis Island site. And there are
some interesting McGin and Ging
entries as well. Also updated the Social Security material with a new SS-5.
Finally got the scanner working, so I've scanned some
images of my family and some things
relating to McGings. It's my long
term goal to scan all the original documentation I have so I can at
least put it on CD. Rootsweb doesn't have size
limits, so I could put it online, but it'd be a LOT.
May 2001: Created a page about the Mayo
Galway Border shift of 1898. Once I realized that my immediate family
resided in the part of Mayo that once was Galway, I had to document it. Seems
some scholarly research turns up my great great
grandfather being a bit of a stand-up guy. Check
it out here. Tweaked some new Ellis Island data, found enough data to
really identify a family from Churchfield Upper. Not sure if they were related,
but my family is from Churchfield, Lower. Created more miscellaneous pages to
house some data I cannot categorize. It is here.
Fell behind a bit, but it's become obvious that in my family, of my grandfather's
time, most of those that left Mayo became McGinn. Almost every one of my great
aunts and uncles left Ireland and used McGinn instead of McGing, making things
a bit more difficult.
April 2001: Pat Deese updated her pages and
I've updated my extracts from her here.
Been tweaking things here and there, not much to report. Ellis
Island records are now available online, so I've added an index of the McGings available there. You need to log on there and
access their system to get more details, but as an index, this certainly is
useful! Thanks to Carl who is up late California time to get access to the
system there. Details from the Ellis Island site has
been posted here. Found the McGing (McGinn) family who moved to Butte
Montana; search my Ellis Island pages for the word Butte. Doesn't look like
they are related to me after all. Am runing into the
very real problem of McGing becoming McGinn once they leave Ireland. Have a
quick index of Ellis Island McGinns as well. Have a death
citation for a Bryan McGing, age 60, in 1883 in Ormskirk.
Found a Bridget McGiny from Westport who came from
Mayo to the US via Ellis Island in 1916.
March 2001: There was a new addition to the SSDI, a Margaret McGing.
The web pages really load faster on the new server, but of course, if you are
reading this, you know that already. Pat Deese is at
it again, updating information and finding new
leads for us.
February 2001: Nicola has had the South Mayo Centre do her family,
and while we had a lot of this data already, they had some things, including a
1901 Irish Census on McGings we did not have.
Jean McGing from England has helped by sharing some UK vital
latest report from Paul MacCotter supports the
contention that the Mayo McGings are distinct from
the Ulster McGinns. Not everyone agrees, so read up
on it and decide for yourself.
January 2001: Nicola, a McGing from England, faxed me some
information from the UK
1881 Census that I have transcribed. Haven't really analyzed things, but
there are some deep English roots for some McGings!
Need time to compare the census data against GRO extract data, as there are far
fewer matches than you'd expect. Found an 1853
birth index entry for England of a Mary McGing. Found out that the WorldConnect site can do some neat reports
such as this one and urge researchers to avail themselves of this useful
December 2000 Changes: I have some new material on the history
of the surname, it's well worth reading! A McGinn from Pennsylvania whose
past relations were McGings has contacted me; I knew
there had to be McGing McGinns out there! Will the
Shane Connolly from Sydney, Australia please write me again? You never left an
email address and I want to talk about your grandfather's name change from
McGing to Connolly.
November 2000 Changes: Updated some census
data for Springfield Ohio in 1920. English data is slowly being updated as
I try and fill in English McGings. Any English McGings who know their history are invited to help me fill
in the gaps. I've been documenting the McGings of
Springfield Ohio, a family that appears to have died out.
October 2000 Changes: Got some new SS5 data added to the Social
Security page. Am starting to wonder if some McGings
became McGean once in the US? My name is often
mispronounced just that way, so if spelled phonetically...? Added a new Dublin
reference with a Ging as a sponsor to a 1828
baptism in Dublin. Have some 1910
Pennsylvania census data; perhaps some information on some unknown
husbands. Added some new Ging data
here. Turns out that the marriage
record for Gladys Uslan (1936 mariage
in England) was actually for a Gladys Nolan. Looks like the handwriting on the
index is less than clear. I have her death certificate and her marriage
certificate to John Maurice (or Maurice John) McGing thanks to Kenneth Uslan. Found a William Ging in
Kosciusko County Indiana in 1837
September 2000 Changes: I got a book "Marriages in the Roman
Catholic Diocese of Tuam, Ireland, 1821 - 1829"
by Helen M. Murphy & James R. Reilly, C.G.R.S., 201pp., bibliography, map,
full name index, 1993. that contained some new data that I put on
this page. I've been perfecting data, working with some people who help me
correct and identify relationship mistakes. I've had some luck with Ohio McGings in the late 1880s, and I've a few irons in the fire
to complete the data available from Social Security. I've got a researcher
looking into the history of the McGing name, that'll be interesting. With luck
I'll be back to the Family History Centers finishing up the films there that I
last saw in April or so.
August 2000 Changes: It's been slow. But I've been cleaning up and
have posted a number of miscellaneous data in the Unassembled
pages. Lots of Ging data in there and things I
can't figure out where to put it.
June 2000 Changes: The Social
Security page is almost all filled in, I updated a LOT of data here. Got 3
persons with McGing mothers SS-5 data online (Collins, Desmond, King) updated
on the Social
Security page. Pat Deese updated her materials
and found some new entries; early 1820 marriage data in the Irish
Vital Records page. Found new McGings by going to
Rootsweb and using their new California Birth and
California Death records, and using McGing in surname
and mothers maiden name. Their Meta Search product
doesn't search mothers maiden name! Search the Meta
Search using McGing and also try Mc Ging.
May 2000 Changes: Found a Michael McGing and added him to the Social
Security page. His name was spelled Mc Ging. More
SS-5 updates on the Social
Security page! The Atomz search engine now has
more options. Created a page for McGing data from Galway.
New data there worth checking out! Added 4 new SS-5 updates on the Social
Security page. Getting more data on those elusive Cleveland McGings based on other data sources. Additional birth and
marriage data from England has been added to the English Vital Records pages
from borth and marriage certificates I have received.
Updated the origins
of the surname with information provided by Andrew Tyrrell. Updated more
baptisms for 1828-1834
using family history film 1279209. Found some new additions to my Irish
April 2000 Changes: I found a new search engine with different
capabilities from my existing one, and like both. So now I recommend you try
them both, you may get differing results. The What's New button will track
changed pages overtime. Found I missed 10 or so marriages/baptisms so fixed the
page I created with Pat Deese's material. Updated the
English Vital Records data in a number of ways. With
Pat Deese's permission, I have extracted McGing
related data from her web pages and pulled it together into
one page. Hit the Family History Centers again, am looking at film 1279209
and added (or confirmed) information for 1829
into 1831. Updated some English vital
records data. There's a lot more work on that film left to do. Added McGing
births in England. Updated the materials stored at Rootsweb to include more collateral families to my line
and updates in various proofs.
March 2000 Changes: Updated English vital records with a new
reference to the County the districts are in. Added an advanced search
function. Corrected many typos in the English Vital Records data.
February 2000 Changes: Sr. Helen as been
busy and provided exerpts from the UK GRO indexes of death
records and marriage
for McGings. If you are from the UK or had family go
there, you need to check this out! My Aunt Ann wrote me and provided an amazing
view on the genesis of the name McGing and I've added it to this
page. I also added a link to my cousin
Mary's page. I have added a search option for this web page. And I must
thank Mr. Tom Kenny for sending me esxcellent copies
of the 1901 census data he had previously provided as an extract. I have a rare
1883 census of Glenmask supplied by Elaine O'Malley
and material about the Glenmask McGings
and O'Malleys that she supplied. I have completed one
full LDS film and have clarified the web pages and titles that cover that data
to be more specific. I have added a new page to handle data that I get from
sources other than the LDS films, so that data is categorized based on where it
was located. I also added some new exerpts on the
origin of the name from a few new sources.
January 2000 changes: I added 2 new pages: Aughagower
Graves Data and Birth Registry Data. Thank you Sr Helen!
I updated the surname basics page with newly identified cited information from
some old books that discuss the origins of the name. I found a site that had
the McGing coat of arms, so click on the thumbnail above to see it. I found a
great web page that discusses Irish heraldry and surnames and the link is in
the Irish Links page. Some LDS visit updates to the LDS transcription material.
Not a whole lot of new stuff there. I've updated the SSDI material with a new
response. I've gotten a lot of material related to the 1901 census for McGings which I have created new pages for. Those people
who sent me copies of the actual census are people I am indebted to! I have
also gotten some research that purportedly shows that the McGings
came from Armagh. This deserves more research. The
"book" has been distributed to a number of
McGing related familes around the world who wrote and
expressed interest in it and many have begun the tasks of writing down their
histories and sending them forward. It's really gratifying to get this kind of
December 1999 changes:There is a new banner on
this page, thanks Don!! Due to holiday and work responsibilities, these are the
last changes this year, decade and century (The millenium
starts in 2001.) The McGing Family Genealogy "book" has been
finalized and made available to those researchers who are seriously involved.
Anyone interested in this data should write because it's not available just to
anyone or to the general public. I have updated the
LDS records with latest information. I have had to start subsidiary pages to
handle this information, as the tables used seem to have a size limit, and going beyond means the page won't display. So
don't get confused if you find things moved a lot! . I
also updated the Social Security pages with recently received data. The layout
of this page (the main page) has been modified to make it smaller and new inks
to what was previously on this page have been created.
November 1999 changes: I have a few pictures that are scans of grave
markers in Aughagower online, I have added a page
showing the results of my scanning films from the Family Heritage Centers. It's
a longer term project, but I solicit people to look
these over. I bit the bullet and transcribed the Griffiths valuations for the McGinns in Mayo. And there is no doubt that those are McGings in disguise. I've gotten a bunch of Social Security
forms back and have transcribed the data onto a new web page.My thanks to Carl for getting me the basic data
as a spreadsheet, it saved me hours of work! A link to the Connaught Telegraph
where a page outlines emigrants from the area from
1904-1915. There's a Thomas McGing listed. Also a link
to a web site that describes the year 1852 in Mayo. There is a statement about
people leaving for England and Scotland due to the farming.
October 1999 changes: I have created a new page for the information
related to Neal McGing, I have updated information on a McGing family found in
Missouri (see Census Reports), added information on a new McGing family found
in the 1850 Ohio Federal Census, a new McGing mailing list, a new page listing
Griffith's valuations for McGings in Mayo, some new
Census bureau reports and updates on 2 McGing lines, one in Missouri and one in
New York, new County Mayo map, some pictures of Ireland, rearranged items in
the Links list and added a death certificate on one Austin McGing in Odds and
Last updated Saturday, 2-Aug-2017