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Snippets and things I have found related to McGings

Also, some poetry written by my father on Lough Mask.

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Provided by Carol Bentley:

Below is a transcript of a family letter that may be of interest to you. It is written by Thomas Gavin to his brother, Austin Gavin in 1848. Both immigrated from Westport, Co Mayo in 1841. The letter mentions a Philip McGing. Gavin is my family line.


Carol Bentley
(puncuation added for readability, spelling left as is)

Massachusetts, June 18th 1848


ihave received your letters. the[y] have laid in the office for several month. ihave left marcellus about eighteenth months. ihave been on a tramp from one place to another to See the Cuntry. iwent early in the Spring to canada. ihave been in upper and lower canada and returned to Syracuse [New York]. iherd that the letters laid in the office for me. iam veary sorry to hear the death of my mother. it grieves me to the hart to think of my affliction. it disabled me to See my dearest and beloved mother which iment to See once more, but now my joys are ended if what you Say be true. in Stead of having pleasure ihave not but grief in view. as I understand you my mother and Anthony and mical [Michael] the [?] orphant is dead.

will you let me know the perticulars about it and how the[y] are getting along there. Jack has rote to John Mc Nally to let him know where iwas. he wanted to know wheather it was better for John and mary halenin to come to this Cuntry. Philip McGing rote what kind of goods was best to bring to this Cuntry. he rote back that money was the best goods that a man could bring which ithought that was veary proper. money is the best goods. i do not [k]now wheather he means to come out or knot. rite me the perticulars about all things now matter about poastage. will pay the poastage on the letters. iam Sorry to hear that you have lost your oxen.. how happened you to loose you oxen? iwant to [k]now wheather you have paid for your land or not, how much have you cleared of it, or how far from detroyet [Detroit] you are.

iam working piece work at the [?] for some time. iam making nine dollars [per] week but iexpect to work by the month. he wants ishould take all his work by the piece but he don’t [?] offer enuff to make it profit on it. so I think I shall go to work by the month. he pays his Curriers Seventeen dollars [per] month. ithink it is heardly enough. ithink ichant [I can’t] work any less than eighteen dollars [per] month. iam in tolerable good health. ihave been troubled with a pain in my left side but iam veary free from pain at present. ihad the fever aqua all last Sumer. it give me hard fit of Sickness.

Yours Truly,

Thomas Gavin

Taken from the Irish Independent on 03/02/2003

John is son of Kitty McGing(nee Gill) from Thornhill, Westport and now living in Kildare and the late Jack McGing Ayle, Westport and Kildare


Sean Rua of Glenagosleen was John McGing, the strongest man in Scotland at one time. He left "Glan" around 1900 for Glasgow. He was about 50 years of age at the time, relict of the McGings of Glenmask/Croaghrim - the weavers. History tells me that a sack of flour in the 1900s was 12 stone weight. Sean Rua carried it from Tourmakeady without a rest to Glensgosleen. He could also stand talking to you if you met him without leaving the sack on the ground.

The ruins of the house still stands in the Glan. It was a storey and a half. There were 24 houses in the village at the time, now only 3 remain. It was a great village for the fairies and it still is today.

Michael P. McNeeley, in Waterfall Tuar Mhic Eadaigh Parish Magazine, 1998

One man's reminiscence of Life in Croaghrim in the 1930's

Here's to Croaghrim we will sing
to the Friels and McGings,
Mulroy, Derrigs and two McNeely's
Govern in the Dell,
Coyne and Duffy both as well,
not forgetting the lace factory lillies

This poem was penned in the early part of the century and the village remained unchanged with the exception of the lace factory which had closed down before my time.

Mentioned in this story are Anthony McGing and Matt McGing.

Martin Coyne, in Waterfall Tuar Mhic Eadaigh Parish Magazine, 1998

Wedding Bells - John McGing (Chicago) son of Maudie and Mick McGing, Derreendafderg and Mary Beth Runtz, Chicago, who were married in Chicago

Waterfall Tuar Mhic Eadaigh Parish Magazine, 1998  

Mai McGing retires after 40 years of teaching

Mai, of Glenmask, Tourmakeady retired after 40 years of teaching.  Formerly Mai Feeney, she married local farmer Sonny McGing in 1957

Waterfall Tuar Mhic Eadaigh Parish Magazine, 1997

Of course, Julia McGing of Glenmask is operating  B and B.

The Snowfall, 1947 is a story about Glenmask told to Noreen Maloney by Katie McGing and Nellie Maloney

Waterfall Tuar Mhic Eadaigh Parish Magazine, 1997


There were 2 weavers in Glenmask, McGings and McNeeleys. The women would help each other at night, carding wool and spinning for the weavers. The McGings also kept a poultry station.

Waterfall Tuar Mhic Eadaigh Parish Magazine, 1997


Situated on the northwestern shore of Connaught, County Mayo contains the towns of KiRala, Castlebar, Crossmolina, Westport, and Ballina. The main Gaelic families in the area were O'Malley, O'Flaherty, McEvilly, O'Henaghan, and O'Flannery. Among the Norman families who settled in this county were the Burkes, Barretts, Nangles, Costelloes, and Jordans. Other septs related to these Norman families and now found in the county, include the McPhilbins, McAndrews, Prendergasts, and Fitzmaurice.

After the seventeenth-century redistribution of Mayo land to English adventurers, the major estate-holders included Browne, Altamont, and Cuffe. During the seventeenth century there were a few attempts to settle parts of Mayo with people from England or northern Ireland. One such settlement was that of the Mullett Peninsula with families from Ulster. Several of these, including the Dixons, established themselves in the area. Many families who were forced to leave the northern counties because of the sectarian fighting of the 1790s also settled in Mayo. These incidents have been relatively well documented.

In 1798 the French landed 1100 men in Mayo under General Humbert to assist the rebellion of United Irishmen. This invasion was too late to be effective, however, as the main rebellion had been defeated earlier in the year. Assisted by local rebels, this army took control of Mayo but was eventually defeated at Ballinamuck.

The land in Mayo is relatively poor. In spite of that the county was one of the most densely populated at the beginning of the nineteenth century when there were 474 people per square  mile of arable land in the county. This dense population was very badly affected by the Great Famine of 1845-47. The population dropped from almost 390,000 in 1841 to 274,000 in 1851. Around 45,000 people died between 1845 and 1850, and huge numbers emigrated. Between 1850 and 1855 alone, over 21,000 people emigrated. By 1891 the population had dropped  to 219,000 and is currently around 115,000.

Declaration of Intention filed in Knox County Indiana.

I, John McGing, aged 31 years, occupation miner, so declare on my oath that my personal description is Color White, Complexion fair, Height 5 feet 9 inches, weight 160 pounds, color of hair, brown, color of eyes, blue, other distinctive visible marks First joint off on middle finger of left hand. I was born in All Lassnade Scotland on the 18th day of February 1892. I now reside at 716 West 9th Street, Bricsnefl (?) Indiana. I emigrated to the United States from Liverpool England on the vessel S.S. Arisoma, my last foreign residence was Corodenbath Fifeshire. I am not married. I arrived at the port of Boston in Massachusetts on or about the 27th day of January 1923. Signed March 13, 1923.

(I can't decipher the well the names of the Scottish towns.)

Mr John McGing

Thank you for your e-mail of 30 March.

I can offer the following information from the material held here:-

McGing, J 1110 Pte. Died of disease, Standerton, 22/1/1902. 2nd Battalion. Born Mayo, Co Mayo.
Medals: Queen's South Africa Medal, 1899-1902. Bars: Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, South Africa 1901 & 1902.
King's South Africa Medal 1901-1902.
Casualty Roll of The Black Watch in the Boer War, 1899-1902 (Draft) Ed Thomas B Smyth p 16.

The service records of those who died 'in the field' are no longer extant. From the sequence of his number he would appear to have served in the Regiment for a good number of years, possibly from the 1880s. In the absence of Depot Roll Books, I am unable to offer a precise date.

The unit with which he served was the 2nd Battalion, The Black Watch (The Royal Highlanders). The regimental numbers were the 42nd & 73rd, not the 25th Regt of Infantry.
I have no information as to where he is buried. You could try the South African Embassy for details.

Thomas B Smyth


Dear Mr McGing

1. Your e-mail of 14 April 2002 regarding Private J. McGing of the Royal Highlanders refers.

2. According to our records, Pte McGing, No. 1110 of the Royal Highlanders died of disease on 22nd January 1902 and is buried in the Standerton garden of remembrance. There is no individual gravestone marking his grave but his name is inscribed on the large central memorial that dominates the garden.

3. His name has been incorrectly inscribed as McGinn on the memorial.

Yours sincerely

Manager: Burial Sites Unit
SA Heritage Resources Agency

The Lakeside Chicago, Illinois General & Business Directory for 1890. Chicago: Chicago Directory Co., 1891.

McGing John, engineer 79 Sedgwick

Boston, Massachusetts General & Business Directory for 1917. Boston: Sampson & Murdock Co., 1917.

McGing James laborer bds 26 Eastman Dor

Lakeside Chicago, Illinois General Directory for 1917. Chicago: Chicago Directory Co., 1917.

McGing John engineer h 2815 Arthington
McGing Mary wid Philip h 4238 Wilcox
McGing Patrick lab h 842 N Franklin

The State of Ohio, Clinton County probate Court: Personally appeared before the Judge of such Court James Lydden who being duly sworn despondenth saith that John Durkin is more than 21 years of age, that Mary McGing is more than eighteen years of age, that they are both unmarried, not nearer of kin than first cousins, and that she is a resident of said county. Subscribed and sworn beforee me this 26th day of October, 1859 James Ludden. DS King, Probate Judge.


October 26, 1859 Marriage Licensewas just this day granted to John Durkin and Mary McGing.

The State of Ohio, Clinton County: I do hereby certify that John Durkin and Mary McGing were joined in marriage by me on the 29th day of October, 1859. THomas Blake, Catholic Priest. Filed and recorded November 1, 1859. DS King, Probate Judge.



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